Dont tell him a thing. If hes a scouser, hell be your friend and rob your car stereo :) ME 27, SW Engineer, Play Rugby, HND, Studying MSC. Scouse parents, great car stereo with nice alloys. Living in USA now as part of my punishment John -- John Astill Email. jastill@hns.com Tel. 301 428 2716 D282 x2716