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RE: Conan (OT Rant)

Howard and Jordan put out some good Conan.  You might also want to try out
Karl Wagner.  L.Sprague is a very controversial man in the Conan world.  The
scorn with which he described Howard and his characters is very curious
indeed.  Perhaps any poor Conan stories he had a hand in where of such poor
quality because he did not have respect or love of the character or original


p.s. If you like REH's works I seriously suggest reading any of the few
Cross Plains Comics out there (like Mythmaker and WolfsHead), and keep an
eye out or new offerings.  Make sure your comic book dealer knows you want
it, cuz they never order enough good stuff.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Grossmann [mailto:grossfam@olywa.net]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 8:19 PM
To: Azamin "Cantona" Zainol Abidin; Groop
Subject: Re: Conan (OT Rant) 

The first Conan movie seriously sucks and has no relation whatsoever to the
"Conan Saga" as can be pieced together from Robert E. Howard's various Conan
stories.  Conan at age 14 or 44 (the range of ages in the Howard stories)
would never submit to any form of slavery and would (and did in several
stories) escape at first chance, killing his would-be master in the process
if given less than half a chance.  I have never understood why L. Sprague
DeCamp, a noted fantasy writer who ressurected Conan in the late 1960's when
Tolkien hit the big time (both Howard & Tolkien wrote in the 30's), would
write a sreenplay that was so stupid and so out of sync with the actual

The Conan movies, comic books, and about one-third of the 61 Conan paperback
books are awful for various reasons.  The best stories/books are by Howard,
Robert Jordan, and John Maddux Roberts.

imho-Gary G.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Azamin "Cantona" Zainol Abidin" <azamin7@pd.jaring.my>
To: "Groop" <groop@groo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 9:15 AM
Subject: Conan

> I just watched Conan the barbarian VCD and do you know why Conan's
> master released him?  it's because he knew that Conan will be facing
> Groo in a fight.  (that's why he brought Conan to the east and teach him
> the art of swordplay.  Since Conan couldn't master it as good as groo
> does, he knew Conan will get slain by Groo and that's why he released
> Conan.
> Azamin